Suffixes - Order and field advice
Hello! I have looked all over BlackBaud and the internet for articles that have provided little advice or suggestions.
I've worked with The Raisers Edge for several years and am currently consulting for a foundation that solicits Doctors, Awardees, and Student Doctors primarily. The Executive Director and CEO do not see eye to eye with default Primary Addressee/Salutation standards.
I have informed them of the custom Addressee/Salutation options, however there is a huge issue with suffix consistency in the database and no agreed upon standard.
For example, we have the following tables:
, DO, MBA
, DO, MBA, CHCQM
, DO, MBA, CPHIMS
, DO, MBA, FACOEP
, DO, MBA, FACOFP
While also having INDIVIDUAL tables:
, DO
, MBA
, FACOS
For reference, we do use both the Suffix 1 table and a Suffix 2 table, so this would require a lot of splitting and global changes.
This is where I need recommendations. The consensus is to limit Suffix 1 to a singular suffix (, Jr. or , DO, or I II II etc FIRST) then limit Suffix 2 to three additional suffixes.
What order or priority should we have for these suffixes? Would anyone care to offer an opinion? I can already determine some as shown above, IE Suff1 = , Jr. ; Suff2 = , DO(always first), MBA(always second?)... It's when we start hitting FACOS, PhD, MPH, and MS territory that I can't offer much information.
Would anyone have a resource or suggestion for formal suffix order priority for Doctors?
Thank you!
Comments
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@Erin Kraft Goodness! So with your tentative plan you would enter it as John Smith, Jr, DO?
While you can set a default order to choose from, your donors will want what they prefer. While not heavily in medical field like you are I've encountered folks who want every degree/certification listed for their name and the flip side of those who just want Mr./Mrs. Academia maybe not quite as many suffix options.

You can set your default order for what is most used/what you hope is most used but IMO you have to use what constituent desires. For some that may be what's in Suffix 1 field, for others it may be Suffix 1 and Suffix 2. I don't see that you can limit it if you're going to have all types of options.
If you're using more than one Suffix field, remember you'll need to pull both fields for any merge documents that you run. And/or create naming formats that use them.2 -
@Erin Kraft And welcome to the Blackbaud community.
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@Erin Kraft also a welcome to the community - we are a school so we don't have this issue and I'll share how I set our system up. Suffix1 is restricted to personal suffixes with no comma in front (Jr.; Sr.; III; etc.) and Suffix2 is restricted to professional suffixes with commas built in (, CPA; , DDS; , DMD). We order the table so personal suffixes are first and professional suffixes follow in alpha order. We would have the professional suffix options that our constituents would have requested.
Let us know what you end up doing!
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@Erin Kraft Good Advice from Elizabeth and JoAnn. Of course your Executive Director and CEO do do not see eye to eye. They of course are NOT database people and probably have limited knowledge of how Raiser's Edge works. I always say, leave the database to the experts, not managment.
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@Erin Kraft
I like @Elizabeth Johnson's method of splitting personal and professional suffixes into their own tables. That will mean, of course, that most of your doctors will only have Suffix2's without a Suffix1, since most people aren't Juniors. I also second @JoAnn Strommen's experience that donors want what they want. Not medical donors, but we have military donors in our system – and some want the whole Col. (Ret.) added in their letter salutations ("Dear Col. (Ret.) James"), and others don't care to include it. Same with priests: some are very particular about their Very Rev. John Smith DD, OSB and others with the same status just want “Father Smith”.For my small contribution, I'll add that according to formal ettiquette, you don't use Dr. and MD/DO/PhD together in an address - it's one or the other.
Here are some professional ettiquette resources:
Hierarchy of postnominal letters (religious, theological, academic, honorary, professional, military - in that order)
Another article on postnominal letter hierarchy
Order of credentials after a name
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@Erin Kraft WOW! This is quite the quandary. The lack of standard is the biggest issue. I think that you should consider limiting your suffixes to the most common suffixes to not allow your suffix table to become unmanageable. Create custom suffixes whenever needed. I'd also consider creating a pivot table of the suffixes to determine how many you have in use of each, and look into table cleanup for those seldom used ones, and creating custom suffixes.
If the leadership are butting heads on this issue, I'd consider just making a recommendation as a third party. They may not listen to each other, but they may listen to you. Having the data to back up your suggestion would definitely help.
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@JoAnn Strommen
Hi JoAnn, what you suggested is what the Executive Director wants yes. I always pull both fields. I've even mentioned that I can keep data as-is for the time being and merge/remove values in excel as desired. Thank you for your suggestion on the order.0 -
@Dariel Dixon
Great suggestion on creating a table. I'll have to figure out a few kinks in the system between similar suffixes but this is a good starting point, thank you!0 -
@Faith Murray
Thank you for your suggestion. This is a great direction to go. I truly appreciate your list of resources as well.0
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