Now we're losing letters?!
NooooooooooOOOOooooooooooooo! OK so what does Raiser's Edge even do any more?! I have SO MANY letters in here!
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I think this is outrageous and cannot believe they are doing this, just can't wrap my brain around it. I've been trying to make certain that I understand it correctly, as it seems impossible that they would actually take away valuable capabilities that they provided and encouraged users to develop over so many years.
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I'm chatting with support right now. WHAT ABOUT RECEIPTS. Do they expect me to somehow write an auto-incrementing word merge and import all the receipt numbers???
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I totally agree, I am still trying to understand.
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I'm SURE they're going to tell me to ‘just use the pdf’s from NXT'. C'mon. I know they know that NOBODY uses those because they're hideous and we can't edit them. I already have a deep distrust for anything NXT generates and I'm not just going to send receipts off willy-nilly without even looking at or editing them.
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I'm glad you all mentioned this, because I am also still trying to understand exactly what all this means. The information provided in the link/KB are kind of vague right now. I'm hoping this gets addressed in a better capacity than the usual Blackbaud “Eh, just check the Knowledgebase. Answer's probably there."
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Yep, that was a rough email to start the day. At least we got more than one month notice this time.
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I am SOOOO angry…. This now puts all the responsibility on the specic user and their computer….. If I have the templates on my computer and make adjustments to them, no one else will have access to them. When I leave/retire or am out on disability after my scheduled surgery, who will be able to run the letters? I think this was a REALLY poor decision. I have sent an email complaining to my “product champion” (HA!) ….. especially mad because we had been seriously considering changing to a different product.
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truly a step backwards!
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Is there anyone here rom Canada that uses e-receipts? it looks like their solution to e-receipting is to use the NXT receipt function, but we don't have that in Canada, so does that mean I'll have to export, word merge, create PDFs and manually send e-receipts one by one to donors??
I'm at a bit of a loss, like Kylea said, what does RE even do anymore?
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Bobby Steurer:
I'm glad you all mentioned this, because I am also still trying to understand exactly what all this means. The information provided in the link/KB are kind of vague right now. I'm hoping this gets addressed in a better capacity than the usual Blackbaud “Eh, just check the Knowledgebase. Answer's probably there."
I got off chat and sent my product “champion” my two cents on this. my small organization will be impacted by the mail merge mostly for conditional letters with maybe 4 or 5 different letter codes in one batch….. and with me going on a medical leave of absence then work from home starting in February, anything on my lap top will not be available to anyone else and that's how they have designed this new “work flow”.
Here is the link for the video they are saying is the new system for this….. How is this moving forward?
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Suzie MacMillan:
Is there anyone here rom Canada that uses e-receipts? it looks like their solution to e-receipting is to use the NXT receipt function, but we don't have that in Canada, so does that mean I'll have to export, word merge, create PDFs and manually send e-receipts one by one to donors??
I'm at a bit of a loss, like Kylea said, what does RE even do anymore?
Another Canadian here @ Suzie! We rely on EReceips heavily, so we are OUT OF LUCK! NXT doesn't work for Canadians yet, and as you say, manually sending PDF's will be nearly impossible to do with any efficiency. I'm stumped.
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We are on year two of a three year contract after upgrading to NXT, but I started chatting with my Ops Manager about alternate product options… which is scary to think about.
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I tested this with one of my letters and it didn't entirely work, word merge fields don't match RE merge fields, so for example we use address block in a lot of our letters and when I do it this way, the address lines, city and postal all end up on one line instead of multiple, like it would be in an RE word merge - which means we'll have to update the merge fields in all of our RE templates before we save them for merging on our local computers….not a happy camper right now
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to top it off, we are an environmental org, this isn't going to sit well with our donors that absolutely do not want paper receipts
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Suzie MacMillan:
to top it off, we are an environmental org, this isn't going to sit well with our donors that absolutely do not want paper receipts
I clearly don't know how to reply properly
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Aldera Chisholm:
We are on year two of a three year contract after upgrading to NXT, but I started chatting with my Ops Manager about alternate product options… which is scary to think about.

We just renewed last month…. had we known this was being planned, it would have been a game changer in my mind. NOT happy.
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Another Canadian here
I can't believe they would make these "backwards" changes. Blackbaud has been quite disappointing in the past year or so. Hopefully by mid next week when my workload improves I can look into the changes, but I am dreading what the implications of these changes will be. We are a very small organization with a very heavy workload on every single individual working here and from what I understand these changes will add more to that already heavy workload. I will be very interested to find out if and Canadian organizations are exploring provider alternatives.3 -
This is really bad. It not only affects all of our acknowledgement letters, but how do we export mailings lists, report and anything else you want to get out of RE. We just moved to NXT over the summer. Had we known this, we probably would have looked at other vendors. Seems blackbaud is going down hill fast!
Patti Posey - Stamford Hospital
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Suzie MacMillan:
to top it off, we are an environmental org, this isn't going to sit well with our donors that absolutely do not want paper receipts
This made me chortle. It's like they think 100% of us mail our thank you letter 100% of the time still. Some of us still are, but not everyone!
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Probably not what you want to hear right now but there are other options to Letters. It would take a little effort initially to migrate to those but then they should replace things like receipts.
BB Just added this tutorial which admitedly does require a subscription to Encodian I think and a bit of tech setup:
We also provide tools like SmartSYNC which can automate emails with merge fields, branding etc. to cover receipting and other regular tasks. We do the tech work there so easier migration for folks. Anyway, get in touch if interested via the support @ smartthing.org or PM me. We are BB partners so this is a paid for option but saves loads of time and effort when up and running.
Hope that helps a bit - totally understand the pain of change…
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Kylea Johnson:
I'm SURE they're going to tell me to ‘just use the pdf’s from NXT'. C'mon. I know they know that NOBODY uses those because they're hideous and we can't edit them. I already have a deep distrust for anything NXT generates and I'm not just going to send receipts off willy-nilly without even looking at or editing them.
I'm not sure that we even have this in the UK???
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This is the worst news
RE already has poor usability for users with disabilities and these extra steps to generate letters now make it harder.4 -
It's not just the pain of change and set up and it's not just letters. This will double the functions every time we use them. And we use them for membership cards, interoffice communication, mailing lists, custom reports, and other uses besides letters and receipts. It really reduces the flexibility of this product and is very disappointing. Security seems like an excuse for budget.
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I was waiting for this discussion. Yes, it's a pain in the butt to convert all these letters into Word and merge them. However, it's crazy that BB expects everyone to just convert to MS Word mail merges. It's not a problem for my organization as we are a MS campus, but for others this is a significant issue.
However, a couple of months lead time is better than 2.5 weeks of notice we got for Crystal Reports.
All of these issues are to resolve “security risks”. I don't know what types of risks exists in the mail functionality that are resolved from exporting into a local Word merge. Regardless, we will have to determine how to proceed going forward. The timing actually works out for me in a strange way. We were looking to add a bunch on new letters. Now, we have to think of another way to handle that issue.
If this issue is one that is making you consider another product, please consider the expense of time and money in a conversion. Blackbaud has not done much in the last couple of years to keep customers, and these removing of functionality with little to no warning is not cool. At all.
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Beverly Porzelt:
It's not just the pain of change and set up and it's not just letters. This will double the functions every time we use them. And we use them for membership cards, interoffice communication, mailing lists, custom reports, and other uses besides letters and receipts. It really reduces the flexibility of this product and is very disappointing. Security seems like an excuse for budget.
Plus…. if we have to put the templates on our personal computers, what's the impact for “working from home” or those working in small organizations with 1. no shared network other than Google Docs; 2.; only one DBA; with no one else who is capable of doing these merge letters in WORD much less RE; and is scheduled to be going out for STD post surgery in February and retiring in 2023….and in what is the “entry” level position for this non-profit homeless shelter.
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Does this mean one will not be able to ack a gift directly when entering a new gift?
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Beverly Porzelt:
It's not just the pain of change and set up and it's not just letters. This will double the functions every time we use them. And we use them for membership cards, interoffice communication, mailing lists, custom reports, and other uses besides letters and receipts. It really reduces the flexibility of this product and is very disappointing. Security seems like an excuse for budget.
My assumption is that the Microsoft products in the database are outdated and no longer supported by Microsoft which is a “security” issue - but instead of updating their program they are putting the onus on their customers - this is just an assumption though
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Suzie MacMillan:
Beverly Porzelt:
It's not just the pain of change and set up and it's not just letters. This will double the functions every time we use them. And we use them for membership cards, interoffice communication, mailing lists, custom reports, and other uses besides letters and receipts. It really reduces the flexibility of this product and is very disappointing. Security seems like an excuse for budget.
My assumption is that the Microsoft products in the database are outdated and no longer supported by Microsoft which is a “security” issue - but instead of updating their program they are putting the onus on their customers - this is just an assumption though
I don't think that is the assumption that should be made. Obviously, the Microsoft Office products that are being used in RE are older, however the SQL server version that RE is running is significantly older. If you were to make an assumption, I'd look in that direction.
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Warren Sherliker:
Probably not what you want to hear right now but there are other options to Letters. It would take a little effort initially to migrate to those but then they should replace things like receipts.
BB Just added this tutorial which admitedly does require a subscription to Encodian I think and a bit of tech setup:
We also provide tools like SmartSYNC which can automate emails with merge fields, branding etc. to cover receipting and other regular tasks. We do the tech work there so easier migration for folks. Anyway, get in touch if interested via the support @ smartthing.org or PM me. We are BB partners so this is a paid for option but saves loads of time and effort when up and running.
Hope that helps a bit - totally understand the pain of change…
I see what you are saying but Letters are only one piece of this new challenge. The tutorial and other options don't address the loss of EReceipt functionality, which is a vital piece for us, especially as Canadian clients - we have different government requirements than our US counterparts and the EReceipt function addressed that. Mail merging letters, yes, we can work with. Losing quick letters is incredibly annoying, but my red flags are the inability to quickly reissue receipts from a gift, and losing EReceipts. I understand that international clients are a small piece of the Blackbaud universe, but we certainly are feeling pretty unimportant and forgotten right now.
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Cora NovacutLee:
Another Canadian here
I can't believe they would make these "backwards" changes. Blackbaud has been quite disappointing in the past year or so. Hopefully by mid next week when my workload improves I can look into the changes, but I am dreading what the implications of these changes will be. We are a very small organization with a very heavy workload on every single individual working here and from what I understand these changes will add more to that already heavy workload. I will be very interested to find out if and Canadian organizations are exploring provider alternatives.Chatted with my Ops Manager just yesterday that we will be reviewing alternatives. I've done a full transition out of BBaud at a former org, and yes it's expensive and painful. But. Worth evaluating. CanadaHelps does have a new solution (Did the demo this week) - and I like they are a Canadian co, even though I think they are a better fit for small orgs though, not for mine. Feeling pretty unappreciated in the Blackbaud universe, that's for sure!
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